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Offline Chirale

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List of LTC FPGA/ASIC-miner-developers
« on: October 22, 2013, 10:20:50 PM »
Hello everybody,

I decided to create a list of the current FPGA/ASIC miner-developers, because I was finding difficult to understand what is the current situation in the litecoin community. I will keep this list here as a first post and try to update it on a regular base. This is not a definitive list, and if you spot any mistake or you want me to add an interesting project please let me know! The list is in alphabetical order.

Note: Please check out for yourself if the developers are trustworthy. I only listed them.

Project NameForum UserThreadStatusProductCostWebsiteShipping
AlcheminerSophiatopic=21959.0Ongoing96-256MH/sec$1500-3900?alcheminer.comOngoing?
Alpha TechnologyAlphatechnologytopic,2859.0.htmlOngoing50-250 MH/sec£1350-5450alpha-t.netOngoing
FutureBitjstefanoptopic=28691.0Ongoing1 MH/sec32$n/aOngoing?
Gridseedn/atopic=355268.0Ongoing70kH/sec (per chip)Bulk ordersgridseed.comOngoing
InnosiliconInno_ASICtopic=578510.0Ongoing60-90-110MH/sec$?innosilicon.comOngoing?
KnCMinern/an/aOngoing300MH/sec$6995?kncminer.comOngoing?
ltcgear.comBeekeepertopic,6401.0.htmlOngoing0.25-1.5MH/s$248-1497?ltcgear.comNot available
Sfardsn/atopic=985400.0Ongoing54MH/s8000.00 RMBsfards.comOngoing?
ZeusminerTerryLtopic=16301.0Ongoing4-10-20-42MH/s$179-1399?zeusminer.comOngoing


FlowerTechBrocktopic,7930.0.htmlStopped?10-60-300MH/s$329-7900flowertechnology.comn/a
BlissDevicesn/an/aOngoing37MH/sec$1440blissdevices.comn/a
HashraHashratopic=19080.0Ongoing14-300MH/sec$425-2150hashra.comn/a
MAT[email protected]topic=16195.0Ongoing200-300-2200MH/s€2700-7299mining-asics-technologies.comn/a
Siliconartn/atopic=18739.0Stopped?0.5-135 MH/s$65-4888siliconart.comn/a
Open Source LTC FPGA MinerKrambletopic,5162.0.htmlOngoingn/an/an/an/a
Fibonacci Inc.Jasinleetopic,2702.0.htmlStopped?8.4-162-315 MH/sec$0.10/KH?fibonacci.ion/a
ArticminerArcticminercorptopic=19471.0Stopped?128MH/sec$7995arcticminer.comn/a
Mturbinemturbinetopic=17559.0Stopped?0.32-10.24MH/s£109-1899mturbine.comn/a
Sluicebit.comSluicebittopic,5946.0.htmlStopped2-4 MH/s$2500-4500sluicebit.comn/a
Cryptcloudexn/an/aStopped1.8-6 MH/s$2400-4800cryptcloudex.comn/a
TDC-CLOUDliteloufietopic=11631.0Stopped1.5-3 MH/s$2999-5000diamondcircle.netn/a
Scrypt ASIC Internationaln/an/aStopped25 MH/sec£800scryptasic.orgn/a
Arcorasicsn/an/aStopped30-60 MH/sec£7999-12999arcorasics.comn/a
CryptoIndustriesTheKoolio/Motaboytopic,6211.0.htmlStopped1-5-10 MH/secn/acryptoindustries.comn/a
LitebladeBinaryTristartid=169Stoppedn/an/an/an/a
ONIX ACAndrew Thomastopic,6661.0.htmlStoppedn/an/apayonix.comn/a
BlockburnerOperatrtopic=172164.0Stoppedn/an/ablockburner.netn/a
« Last Edit: February 11, 2016, 09:49:42 PM by Chirale »

Offline Mattzees

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Re: List of LTC FPGA-miner-developers
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2013, 03:54:35 AM »
Sluicebit... 26+ months until ROI.  Really?

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Re: List of LTC FPGA-miner-developers
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2013, 04:14:16 AM »
LTC gear, ROI in 42+ months.  Really?

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Re: List of LTC FPGA-miner-developers
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2013, 05:23:39 AM »
Ciphermine is developing an fpga / asic?

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Re: List of LTC FPGA-miner-developers
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2013, 07:07:09 AM »
Sluicebit... 26+ months until ROI.  Really?

I personally think that ROI is a big issue in all the crypto currency, but it is difficult to evaluate it for LTC at present due to the current value of LTC in dollars. In other words, when people started heavy mining of bitcoin with graphic cards and/or FPGA and the bitcoin was at 2-3$ I doubt they had a ROI, but with the bitcoin going sky high we can definitely say that it was a good investment...

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Re: List of LTC FPGA-miner-developers
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2013, 07:18:27 AM »
Ciphermine is developing an fpga / asic?

Sy,

I went through most of ciphermine thread again. You are right, they developed FPGA-miner for their farm (mostly Ztex as far as I know), but i coudn't find any plan to sell them to miners. Please let me know if you know otherwise and I'll update the list.
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Re: List of LTC FPGA-miner-developers
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2013, 07:40:39 AM »
Ciphermine is developing an fpga / asic?

Sy,

I went through most of ciphermine thread again. You are right, they developed FPGA-miner for their farm (mostly Ztex as far as I know), but i coudn't find any plan to sell them to miners. Please let me know if you know otherwise and I'll update the list.
Bye

Ciphermine is mining btc with their fpga, they are using them to mine, no dev there that i know of.

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Re: List of LTC FPGA-miner-developers
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2013, 07:47:57 AM »
I have just sent a pm to Evilscoop about it, well find out soon...

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Re: List of LTC FPGA-miner-developers
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2013, 10:36:46 AM »
Glad someone took the time to gather all this information in one place - hope you will keep it updated!

I am curious how this whole FPGA thing will progress for scrypt. So far there have been so so so many claims of "we're going to make a FPGA that works and is cost-effective" but so far it seems like almost every single group has failed to bring the cost down to something that would surpass GPUs.


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Re: List of LTC FPGA-miner-developers
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2013, 11:28:31 AM »
Glad someone took the time to gather all this information in one place - hope you will keep it updated!

I am curious how this whole FPGA thing will progress for scrypt. So far there have been so so so many claims of "we're going to make a FPGA that works and is cost-effective" but so far it seems like almost every single group has failed to bring the cost down to something that would surpass GPUs.

As said MANY times before across the threads, the goal of fpgas was and never will be to surpass GPUs, they are always more expensive with the benefit of cheaper upkeep, they've never been faster than gpus nor cheaper, even for sha which is much easier.

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Re: List of LTC FPGA-miner-developers
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2013, 04:18:06 AM »
Good Job! I will keep an eye on this thread.

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Re: List of LTC FPGA-miner-developers
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2013, 09:46:58 AM »
As said MANY times before across the threads, the goal of fpgas was and never will be to surpass GPUs, they are always more expensive with the benefit of cheaper upkeep, they've never been faster than gpus nor cheaper, even for sha which is much easier.

I meant for price.

Who is gong to spend $600 on an FPGA that does 500khash when you can get a 7950 that will do that for less than half the price? Sure the FPGA might take less power but it's all a numbers game - it still makes more sense to buy GPUs and have them running wherever you can find cheap power rather than to pay $1+/khash  to save a few bucks in electricity.  What would an average 7950 use in power per month? Maybe 180 kwh? That's probably around $20 for most people.  Let's assume the best FPGA will take so little power it is free. If an equivalent FPGA costs even only $300 more it will take you 15 months at the $20/mth of power difference to make up that $300. That's in addition to the ROI you're already looking at on your GPU card rig which is probably already 15+ months.  That's long time to wait to start seeing savings!

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Re: List of LTC FPGA-miner-developers
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2013, 09:57:15 AM »
Plus second gen devices or asics will most likely be released while you are waiting for your ROI, adding hashrate and pushing your timeline further back...

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Re: List of LTC FPGA-miner-developers
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2013, 11:09:20 AM »
You don't take in account things like:
- you will be able to install more kH/s per same power line
- it will be less noisy, possible no noise at all if you don't overclock
- it will take less room. or, the other way, you will able to pack more in the same space
- it will generate less heat

And a personal note; you only saw one public FPGA so far, mine and that was remotely. Kramble's project is real too, but it is not aiming to replace GPU. There is a long way to ASIC, and imho, at least one of the ASIC projects, by its description, probably will take a lot to get real.

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Re: List of LTC FPGA-miner-developers
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2013, 12:08:16 PM »
You don't take in account things like:
- you will be able to install more kH/s per same power line
- it will be less noisy, possible no noise at all if you don't overclock
- it will take less room. or, the other way, you will able to pack more in the same space
- it will generate less heat

And a personal note; you only saw one public FPGA so far, mine and that was remotely. Kramble's project is real too, but it is not aiming to replace GPU. There is a long way to ASIC, and imho, at least one of the ASIC projects, by its description, probably will take a lot to get real.

True but all this aims at the business miner, i would have to invest some cash to max out my 64A line i had available, thats 14720W at 230V - but yeah, it should make big operations easier to deploy and manage...

Hmm i should consider creating a mining IPO at some point :)