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PLEASE READ!

BIG NEWS FOR MINERS: https://forum.alpha-t.net/index.php?topic=890.0

Greeting Miners! We can now be found on our own official forums here forum.alpha-t.net; this forum will allow members of the Alpha Technology team to interact with the community directly under one roof. Please note as a result of this some things on this forum may now be unreliable/outdated.

Visit our website for up to date information: alpha-t.net/news and to check out our latest miners: alpha-t.net/shop

The Basics:

We are aiming to reduce the power as much as possible so there is every chance it will be significantly lower, in any case this is the maximum we guarantee:

>=250 Mh/s for £5450 at <=1875 Watts
>=50 Mh/s for £1350 at <=375 Watts

Shipping Information: alpha-t.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Shipping-Costs1.pdf

Batch 1 Loyalty Bonuses:

Here are the benefits we offer for ordering now and being a batch 1 customer:

1. Being able to order first as well as free shipping for batch 2
2. 10% off any future batch of your choice (subsequent batches will be significantly more powerful)

So order now and be a part of batch 1!

Information

Website: alpha-t.net
General Enquiries & Support: [email protected]
Orders & Payments: [email protected]
Twitter: @UKAlpha
Forum: forum.alpha-t.net

Alpha Technology is a technology firm based in the UK, located in Manchester, comprising of a team of experienced IT and engineering specialists. Bringing together our expertise and that of our partners, we work towards providing hardware which is durable, powerful and cost-efficient to the crypto-hardware market.
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Offline litecoinarnold

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Re: LTC FPGA Miner
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2013, 12:23:05 AM »
What's your expected hashrate/cost? Also using Spartan 6's with external ram?

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Re: LTC FPGA Miner
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2013, 12:58:11 AM »
Keep us posted. There seems to be a number of lite coin fpgas in the works. Looking forward to reviewing this as it develops. Cheers! -Josh

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Re: LTC FPGA Miner
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2013, 01:27:32 AM »
If you need help finding documentation for the project let me know, I can direct you toward the resources you will need to develop the scrypt module. There is very little documentation to scrypt or fpga dev for the bitcoin fpgas, much less for litecoin. To keep you from spinning your wheels though just lemme know if you cannot find something. I may have it saved already from the last 6 months of our development.

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Re: LTC FPGA Miner
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2013, 03:18:37 AM »
Simulations are currently taking place with the different FPGA's.And i believe we have the capability to reach our goals or surpass them due to a  professional company we will have working on this in full-force in the coming months.
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Re: LTC FPGA Miner
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2013, 01:38:57 PM »
Just an update. We have ramped up the team and have our premises ready for when assembly starts. Working in collaboration with our design team abroad we have competence in all areas of FPGA design, and excellent contacts for any procurement (large scale pcb manufacturing, mounting, bulk FPGA etc..)

Currently we are in the final stages off fully implementing the Litecoin algorithm in FPGA (not only Scrypt but other algorithms which are stated  PBKDF2, HMAC-SHA256, SHA256 and SALSA20/8, some of which are open source available). Currently in a 12 week process, our tech lead software engineer  has taken over and is developing the communication between board and PC. Everything we are doing is custom made from bottom up, this gives us the advantage of ironing out all details. We are designing the FPGA in the structured manner you would get working on military grade systems, giving you an idea of the sort of proficiency and quality were aiming towards.

In the next 2 weeks we will be porting our design onto an off the shelf board, giving us the ability to test the system and optimise it, working towards our results we received during simulation. Then we can come up with the exact FPGA and block diagram that will result in the end product. Taking our large scale costs into account and a suitable pricing, were aiming towards a minimum of 500-800 kh/s per unit.

Our goal is to constantly provide detailed information on where we are at. Being a student in Electronic Engineering, so far i have learnt a lot myself. So i want to share our updates, and also to increase awareness and interest in Electrical and Electronic Engineering. And give you a glimpse of all the stages in a professional environment when it comes to FPGA design and development.

In my opinion its a great way to learn if your just an average enthusiast or deciding what to study in college or university! Also a guide to educate members of the crypto-currency community, especially when your being told by companies (not naming any names) that it takes 3 months to design and produce an ASIC!

We will also be providing images and videos of the different stages in development. In the next few weeks showing you the first ever Litecoin dedicated FPGA in action.

As we are producing this FPGA for the community, its important we get feedback! Our website will be launching soon. But follow us on twitter for early sneak peak updates www.twitter.com/ukalpha
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Re: LTC FPGA Miner
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2013, 02:21:54 PM »
Until you have units in production, ACTUALLY SHIPPING TO CUSTOMERS, and working as-promised, this will be considered a scam.

And just FYI- people are already getting 500-800 Khs per GPU right now, so I'm assuming that was a typo.

That being said, I wish you the best of luck.

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Re: LTC FPGA Miner
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2013, 02:49:21 PM »
Until you have units in production, ACTUALLY SHIPPING TO CUSTOMERS, and working as-promised, this will be considered a scam.

And just FYI- people are already getting 500-800 Khs per GPU right now, so I'm assuming that was a typo.

That being said, I wish you the best of luck.

An FPGA can get no more hashes per second than a GPU and still be competitive due to the reduced power usage.

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Re: LTC FPGA Miner
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2013, 06:54:09 PM »
Thanks for your response Mattzees. We are not scamming anyone but letting our intentions known and any further updates on our progress. We will be doing a demonstration of our prototype and showing you guys a press release from our well known partners. However, the next stage will be showing the Litecoin implementation actually running on an off the shelf board as a proof of concept, which i havn't seen as of yet from anyone. From this we can optimise and come up with the exact FPGA + board configuration we will be going with.

As iv'e stated on the bitcoin forum, i'm currently busy and will only be replying to posts i feel the need to respond to, and also any updates in our progress.

Once again thank you for your interest.

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Re: LTC FPGA Miner
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2013, 05:44:19 AM »
And just FYI- people are already getting 500-800 Khs per GPU right now, so I'm assuming that was a typo.
An FPGA can get no more hashes per second than a GPU and still be competitive due to the reduced power usage.
What about the cost of the FPGA set up ?

A HD7950 graphic card can get to high 600's to low 700's in a typical set up, unless the FPGA's price is half to one third of the HD7950 (and remember, ATI gonna come up with their HD9xxx series in 6 month time, which means, HD7xxx GPUs gonna have another round of price slashing) I don't think many will convert to the FPGA.

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What's the memory requirement for the FPGA setup ?
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2013, 06:56:58 AM »
As mentioned in http://cryptocur.com/litecoin/ mining litecoin is a memory intensive operation.

If you guys are going to FPGA, are you going to tap the Motherboard's RAM ?

Assuming that it's possible to chain the FPGAs on one computer, how much GB of RAM each FPGA module needs ?

Right now as we are using ATI's graphic card in mining litecoins, and in cards such as the Sapphire HD7950, each card already comes with 3GB of RAM.

I've read some where that Litecoin uses about 2GB RAM.

Will the FPGA set up use as much RAM as the graphic cards ? Meaning, each FPGA module consuming 2GB of RAM ?

As I have just started the mining (and only bought one HD7950) I am open to the idea of using the FPGA to mine. If you guys can give us some indication on the basic requirement of your FPGA set up, maybe it would help us in better prepare our rigs so that when we are to change to the FPGAs our motherboards can be tapped into operations.

Thank you.

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Re: LTC FPGA Miner
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2013, 07:40:25 PM »
The overall speed is not an issue. It's the efficiency of Cost/Performance. We can scale up a lower speed (500-800 kilohash/s), that would depend on exactly what configuration we are going with, which will be explained in a few weeks time. And in response to Potato, memory is not an issue at all with FPGA's. In the Bitcoin community everybody is just familiar to FPGA devices that are specialised for bitcoin mining, requiring little additional high speed interfaced memory with the FPGA modules. Why would the FPGA developers waste money on interfacing high speed ddr3 memory in the GB's if there will be no use for it in bitcoin mining? On the other hand i have seen many medium sized off-the-shelf boards with 16 GB + DDR3 memory (2-4 GB per FPGA). And the memory interfacing and the modules are in fact far cheaper than the FPGA's. Memory on FPGA's are not an issue at all, all it comes down to is your board design and configuration.

The setup would be made as easy as possible. Plug in, power up. We will be working with Luke the developer of BFGMiner for mining software support in the coming weeks.
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Re: LTC FPGA Miner
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2013, 02:15:39 AM »
And in response to Potato, memory is not an issue at all with FPGA's. In the Bitcoin community everybody is just familiar to FPGA devices that are specialised for bitcoin mining, requiring little additional high speed interfaced memory with the FPGA modules.
Dear Sir,

With due respect we are talking about Litecoin, where the one thing that differentiates the two - at least according to the information that I've gathered online, such as ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117221.msg1257520#msg1257520 ) and ( http://litecoin.info/Comparison_between_Litecoin_and_Bitcoin#CPU_mining_vs_GPU_mining), for example - is that Litecoin is very memory intensive.


Why would the FPGA developers waste money on interfacing high speed ddr3 memory in the GB's if there will be no use for it in bitcoin mining? On the other hand i have seen many medium sized off-the-shelf boards with 16 GB + DDR3 memory (2-4 GB per FPGA). And the memory interfacing and the modules are in fact far cheaper than the FPGA's. Memory on FPGA's are not an issue at all, all it comes down to is your board design and configuration.
Sir,

That is exactly the information that I was asking for - information such as the memory requirement for each of the FPGA that we will hook up into our rig (with motherboards) so that we, the miners, can be better prepared in choosing the right kind of motherboards now so to ease the transition from Graphic Cards to FPGAs.

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Re: LTC FPGA Miner
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2013, 02:34:43 AM »
That is exactly the information that I was asking for - information such as the memory requirement for each of the FPGA that we will hook up into our rig (with motherboards) so that we, the miners, can be better prepared in choosing the right kind of motherboards now so to ease the transition from Graphic Cards to FPGAs.

While I have no idea of what device this original poster is planning to use, an example of FPGA devices with high speed memory access would be the Nallatech 395 which uses the  Altera Stratix-V, an OpenCL FGPA chip on an accelerator card which supports up to 4 independent banks of 8GB of DDR3 memory at 1600MT/s per bank.  It also has 8 lane PCIe support with max network bandwidth of 10GB/s.   Again I doubt this would be the device they are looking at, but somewhere between this, and those used for bitcoins is a middle ground.

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Re: LTC FPGA Miner
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2013, 05:30:44 PM »
That is exactly the information that I was asking for - information such as the memory requirement for each of the FPGA that we will hook up into our rig (with motherboards) so that we, the miners, can be better prepared in choosing the right kind of motherboards now so to ease the transition from Graphic Cards to FPGAs.

While I have no idea of what device this original poster is planning to use, an example of FPGA devices with high speed memory access would be the Nallatech 395 which uses the  Altera Stratix-V, an OpenCL FGPA chip on an accelerator card which supports up to 4 independent banks of 8GB of DDR3 memory at 1600MT/s per bank.  It also has 8 lane PCIe support with max network bandwidth of 10GB/s.   Again I doubt this would be the device they are looking at, but somewhere between this, and those used for bitcoins is a middle ground.

Not to mention the 15k price tag :P