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Good day,

This thread is devoted to theSolution Series A “LAND FUND”, a fund listed through Litecoininvest.com. The following description contains details regarding the nature of our operation. We welcome all of your questions and comments. We would like to take an active role in shaping the future of crypto currency finances, and this is the first step of our journey.


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[Your Name]
Piotr Wardecki, Wieslaw Wardecki, Jakub Wardecki

[Business Name]
theSolution Series A “LAND FUND”

[Business Location (city/state/region/country)]
Olsztyn/Poland

[Phone Number]
+48 798 503 966

[Email Address]
[email protected]

[About your Company]

Please mind that the company responsible for issuance of theSolution Series A “LAND FUND” virtual shares is P.H.U. WIK, a company located in Olsztyn/Poland. This is done for the legal purpose of assigning each share to a portion of land held by the company owners. This is a partnership company, a family business to be more precise, not a LLC company, so we vouch for our liabilities with our property. All the details concerning the personalities of P.H.U. WIK owners, as well as documents confirming the ownership of the mentioned land are in the possession of SKETIS JSC.

When referring to theSolution Series A “LAND FUND”, we refer to an operation described in this prospectus, run by P.H.U. WIK. The operation involves Foreign Exchange trading, which is the only source of income. Funds gathered through the issuance of virtual shares will not be used in any other manner than for Forex trading. All the finances of P.H.U. WIK are separate from the finances of theSolution Series A “LAND FUND”.

All the descriptions concern theSolution Series A “LAND FUND”, an operation run by the P.H.U. WIK company.

[Link to Local Government Registrations]
http://regon.info/1618567/phu-wik-wieslaw-wardecki/

[Facebook Profile URL]
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[WoT or Equivalent URL]
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[Series B description- includes Forex trading results]
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5MX8YsGbFm9ZTVNR205N0czOVk/edit?pli=1


Set a reasonable goal for your business!

My goal is:

The initial goal is to issue a number of shares with a portion of land assigned to each share, in order to back up their value. The capital gained from the issuance of shares will then be used for Forex trading. We have extensive experience in Forex trading, with more than 3 years of gains month by month. The profits generated through our trading are not huge, but are also not that small, and oscillate between 5 and 10% of profit per month. The major advantage is that the gains are consistent and our risk is very low. Our current personal trading capital is 50.000 USD, which gives us a comfortable source of income.

We are investors with several years of experience, with safety of funds being the focal point of our interest. To achieve a higher level of safety in this offer, we would like to use our property to back up our shares. We view it as a fair way of proving our worth. Additionally to using land, we would like the shares to retain a minimum value (by performing a buyback at a set minimum price if requested). We view this as an additional method of bringing more safety for the investors. As we are investors ourselves, we would surely appreciate a company doing a similar thing, this is our reasoning for doing so.

The goals are:

-generate a profit of 5 to 10% per month trading Forex
-allow Litecoin investors to participate in gains achieved by our trading methods
-prove our trading methods to the general public
-build trust among the Litecoin community
-prepare ourselves for further stages of operation (Series B, please refer to Series B prospectus)
-allow Series A investors the opportunity to earn money, so they can later participate in the more advanced operation (Series B)
-bring an additional element of safety by assigning land to each share and by issuing shares that retain a minimum value
-maintain a high level of security with regard to handling crypto currencies

Have step by step detailed plans for success!

The Series A “LAND FUND” is quite a simple operation that involves trading Forex as we have been doing for the last 3 years. We use automated trading methods that were developed by ourselves, to suit our trading needs- to reach a consistent profit with low risk. We’ve reached that goal, so now we can grow the scale of our operation by allowing other investors to participate. For the time being we are restricted to trading Forex on fiat denominated accounts (USD), but services like BTC-e are starting to offer BTC/LTC/NMC denominated accounts and in the near future we will be able to trade on a crypto currency denominated account in the same manner as we have been trading on fiat denominated accounts. This way the 5-10% profit will be made on the invested BTC/LTC/NMC, but for now we need to treat crypto currencies as a means of transferring value with regard to our operation.

Have a plan for failure!

While learning about the crypto currency environment, we tried to make notice of the mistakes that individuals make while conducting business in crypto currencies. We’re talking about both big mistakes made by CEO’s of large-scale operations, as well as people trying to set up a small crypto currency related business. On our part we can assure you that we will do our best to avoid mistakes (an optimistic statement) and we will try to solve every problem and make up for any mistake as best as we can. One sphere of our activity that you can rely on in particular, is the trading sphere. Here we are experts, handling money, making money, protecting money.


If I fail:

-the reason for backing the asset with land is to enable a means of compensating the investors in case of failure due to any cause.
-an important factor is that we don’t spend the gathered funds to buy/invest into something, we simply put the money to work, so at every stage of operation we have access to the full amount of the invested money. This way we can perform a buyback from an investor at a price close to the IPO price. This is why the shares can retain a minimum value.


Protect your shareholders!

I will NOT screw you by:
  a) Issuing more shares without passing a vote (we will issue Series B shares, but those are for a completely new enterprise).
  b) Spending your money on anything other than what I say I will.
  c) Significantly changing the asset without a vote (no need to do that).
  d) Giving up when the going gets tough (no way to do that).


Executive summary

My name is Piotr Wardecki. I am a full-time Forex trader with several years of experience. It took me few years to learn to make profits while trading Forex and for the last 3 years my profits are consistent month by month and oscillate around 5-10% profit monthly.

My trading capital is 50.000 USD, and probably I wouldn't bother to stick my nose out of my home-office if it weren’t for cryptocurrencies. I would probably continue making my 5-10% monthly of those 50.000 USD (which in my country, Poland, is quite a good salary), enjoying life and not worrying or getting stressed, but then I stumbled across crypto currencies, and my fascination began.

I came across BTC first at the time when it was worth 10 USD and for a moment I considered mining as anyway my laptop was in use 24/5 (Forex is active 5 days a week, and my laptop was up for the whole time), but I didn't decide to mine. For a while I forgot about Bitcoin. It was the beginning of 2014, I wanted to read something interesting on my tablet before going to sleep. Bikes? I like cycling, but not that much to be reading about it. Swimming? Not that much interested to be reading either. My whole world and interest was centred around currencies, Forex, trading, finances and macroeconomics. Everything else sounded boring. So I thought to myself, wait a sec, there was this Bitcoin that I've read about like two or three years ago. Let's check what has this Bitcoin been doing since then. I typed in "bitcoin" and couldn't believe my eyes that IT created such a vast universe of interest. Of people's interest. Of innovation. Not to mention the market capitalization. From that time I got hooked up.

I spent the last few months reading, learning, analyzing, researching, trying to understand, testing, and reading and learning and so on and on and on. I've managed to learn a lot. I became fascinated with the technology behind crypto currencies, as many people probably have. I'm a businessman, a trader, investor, moneymaker, so it is natural that an idea came to my mind. Why not to utilize my Forex methods to make money in the crypto currency market?

There is a number of ways I could do that, the most attractive (from the perspective of BTC/LTC/NMC holder) would be to continue making those 5-10% monthly trading standard Forex pairs (this is what I do) on an account denominated in BTC/LTC/NMC. This is doable, as BTC-e provides this kind of service. This will be the purpose of Series B operation, as the markets at BTC-e mature, and more similar services surface. To achieve this, we need to wait for BTC-e and other providers to develop.

Another alternative is to use crypto currencies as a means of transferring value- gather for example LTC, sell it for USD, trade on a regular Forex account, share the profits with the investors. This is the purpose of Series A operation, the Land Fund. Instead of sitting and waiting for a good level of service provided by BTC-e, I’ve decided to step in now, to prove myself to the crypto currency community, so when the time comes to go big in Series B, I’ll be ready, and you’d be ready.

What motivates me strongly to transfer my knowledge from the domain of Forex into the crypto currency world is the fact that my trading methods work with cryptocurrencies as well. I’ve conducted tests trading BTC/USD on BTC-e platform and managed to get close to my Forex trading results, but the flaw was that it was a USD denominated account. A big breakthrough came when BTC-e launched trading account denominated in BTC/LTC/NMC. This way I can trade my regular Forex pairs such as EURUSD and GBPUSD, but earn in BTC/LTC/NMC, making a gain of 5-10% monthly. The BTC-e service needs to mature a bit, to ensure stability of trading and safety of funds, hopefully more providers would launch such services, so the future is starting to look bright.

My final goal is to make investments approachable to everyone (Series B operation), so instead of earning a mere 5% per year on a standard bank savings account, one could earn 20 or 30% per year when holding value in BTC or other cryptocurrencies. I would like to integrate such an investment service with the most popular standard wallets, where with one click a person could transfer funds for investing, be earning at a rate of 20-30% per year, and be able to withdraw them instantly. Before I can reach that, I need to start small, step by step, and the time is right to do it. By services like this we could shape a new model of finances.

In this summary I have allowed myself to share a certain deal of private experience and opinions, so the community may at least slightly get to know me. If interested in more details, please feel free to contact me personally. Some parts of this Executive Summary were taken from my conversations with enthusiasts centred around Counterparty, to whom I salute for introducing me to the deeper layers of the crypto currency world.

Business description

Why have we chosen Litecoininves.com?

There is a really sound reason for choosing Sketis JSC and Litecoininvest.com as the platform for issuing our virtual shares. We are located just a bit over 400 km from Vilnius, where Sketis JSC is situated. This is just a few hours drive by car. This makes us feel more comfortable with their platform, and hopefully make investors feel more secure. In case of any trouble we can meet in person.

•   Mission statement (business purpose).
Our mission is to connect Forex and crypto currencies in the best way possible. We would like to take it step by step. After analyzing the crypto currency environment, we decided that it would not be reasonable to try and jump in with a big operation, asking for huge financing, as we are relatively new to the community. We decided to give the best service we can at this point, a Forex trading service, with steady income. To put the money where our mouth is, we decided to back our asset with portions of land, so they really bear a certain value. This is contrary to some assets that are supposed to be backed up by gold, for example, where the entrepreneurs claim to possess a certain amount of gold (virtual gold, as virtual as the assets). We are investors ourselves, this is why we decided to allow a greater level of security by assigning the portions of land, and by allowing the shares to retain the minimum value. This is what we would expect from a business of this nature, that is why we provide such solutions.

•   Company vision (statement about company growth).
The Series A “LAND FUND” operates solely on the basis of the capital gained through the issuance of virtual shares. The capital will then be converted to USD and used to trade Forex. This way the investors will receive a return of 5-10% per month, in relation to the amount of USD that the LAND FUND manages to gather. Monthly profit will be paid out as dividends per share with the use of LTC, through the Litecoininvest.com platform (we will also arrange necessary steps to allow easy transfer of ownership in cases where anything goes wrong with the platform [hope not]). Therefore the company will not grow as such, rather rely on steady profits made by our trading methods. This way the investors will experience a steady income over the years.

The Series B operation, which is not a part of this listing, but a part of our future plans, will involve great growth opportunities (please refer to the Series B prospectus), and we will allow Series A investors a priority in acquiring Series B shares, additionally discounting the per share price. Series B needs specific conditions, i.e. the ability to use a crypto currency denominated account provided by a broker (for example BTC-e), and before those conditions are met, we will probably limit ourselves to running the Series A “Land Fund”.

•   Business goals and objectives.
The main goal on our side is to gain trust and recognition by conducting a high-standard investing service within the sphere of crypto currencies. The main goal that we will try to deliver towards the investors (viewing it from their perspective) is a steady income at a low risk.
•   Brief history of the business.
I’ll make this personal. The history of trading within our family started with my father, Wieslaw, who started trading the stock markets it the early 90’s, as a method of investing the excess of earnings. He’s been a careful trader, not exposing himself to risk. I never liked stock markets, as they seemed unpredictable to me. I never participated in stock trading. Several years ago I became interested in Forex trading. I’ve started learning, experimenting, trading. In the aftermath of the 2008 financial crisis, trading became quite easy, as the volatility of the markets skyrocketed, and the majority of traders were in agreement as to the direction of the price movement of financial instruments (Forex currency pairs in my case). Trading was simple for some time, but the market’s volatility started to shrink at the end of 2012. This is when I realized that I need to adapt my trading methods to poor conditions. This decision turned out to be a winner.

Few years ago I used to teach my methods, but about two years ago I gave it up to concentrate on my trading and further development of my methods. I mentored over 150 traders, working individually with each of them, so my perspective on trading is much broader compared to most of the traders. My main assumption is to make my trading as secure as possible, even if it means giving up a part of the potential gains. I prefer to make less %, but to keep it stressless and safe. This way I can make money month by month. The key point is to keep it simple and universal, so that the method works in any market conditions, instead of making it a specific method that works in certain market conditions and results in losses when market conditions change. From my perspective, my case is a rare one- usually traders turn into teachers, as markets overwhelm them. I am a teacher turned into a trader.

•   List of key company principals.
Safety of funds. This is our number one principle. We prefer to make less money trading, but do it in a safe manner. We prefer to excuse ourselves for making 3% a month instead of 5%, than to excuse ourselves why we’ve lost 80%.


Business description (continuation)

We decided to divide our operation into two stages. Stage A, also bearing the name of Virtual shares issuance Series "A", will involve issuing a number of shares with the issuers' private property to back up the value of shares. To be more precise, the property is a building plot of land in a residential area in the city of Olsztyn, Poland, near the centre, but remaining at the same time in a suburban area. The value of the land is equal to 30.000 USD. The issuers are in possession of two of such building plots, so one of them will be reserved for the virtual shares offering through  Litecoininvest.com with the use of Litecoin.

The offering will be conducted through a company registered in Poland, where the owners vouch with their personal property for the liabilities of the company. Each share will be tied to a small portion of the building plot, with the portion's value (converted to USD) equal to the share's value (converted to USD). The total number of shares will be calculated in a way to be equal to the total value of the land, and will be announced shortly before the IPO. The suggested mechanism for calculating the number of shares is as follows:

33.000 USD - value of land
LTC - value 8,62 USD (as per 20.07.2014)
Number of shares: 38283, with the price of 0,1 LTC each. As the land consists of 1023 square meters, each share will be assigned to a portion of the land. With 1023 square meters and 38283 shares each share will be given 0,0267 square meters of the land.

The funds raised through the sale of shares will be invested into trade Forex (to read about our Forex trading methods and trading history please refer to the second paper "Introduction and business description BTC LTC Series B"). A monthly gain should oscillate between 5 to 10%, and this will be the amount of dividend paid every month to the shareholders. Therefore, if the initial capital is equal to 33.000 USD, and a monthly profit on average is 7%, this equals to 2.310 USD. The operators/issuers would charge a fee of 20% of the monthly gains, which in this case is equal to 462 USD, thus making the monthly dividend payment equal to 1848 USD. With 38238 shares existing, this would make a dividend of 0,04 USD per share (per every 0,1 LTC invested at the price of 0,86 USD). All dividends will be paid in LTC.

Besides being secured with land, each share will retain a minimum value (close to the per share value in USD during the IPO) at which we would be willing to perform a buyback from a given investor. From our perspective this is an honest option, so investors know that the shares' value will not go beyond a certain level. Contrary to most businesses, we don't spend the investors' funds, but put them to work, so on request we would be able to withdraw those funds and repay the investors. The suggested mechanism for calculating the per share minimum value is as follows:

number of shares: 38238
price per share: 0,1 LTC

Each time we gather a certain amount of LTC (e.g. 300 LTC) for the shares sold, we will sell the LTC for USD. This way we gather our Forex trading capital. After selling the 300 LTC we receive an amount of USD. If 1 LTC is sold for 8,62 USD (as for 20.07.2014) we arrive at a number of 2586 USD. Then we divide the amount of USD gained, by the number of shares sold to gather those 300 LTC (3000 shares). As a result, each share can be assigned with 0,86 USD. The next time we sell a portion of LTC gathered through the sale of shares, we will calculate the per share value from that given batch, and adjust the per share minimum value. This way of calculation is more honest to all of the investors- the per share minimum value is a value that we all agree on, both the company and the investors, and we will try to keep it as close to objectivity as possible.

The precise number of shares sold will be calculated shortly before the IPO, and the per share minimum value will start to be calculated shortly after the IPO. We will think of conducting a voting with regard to the per share minimum value (this is one of the issues that we would like to hear your opinion about) to make sure that the price satisfies the investors.



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Offline Ethera

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Re: [ANN][Litecoininvest.com] theSolution Series A “LAND FUND”
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2014, 08:12:42 PM »
Confirmation from Sketis, all ID and documents to land ownership were provided, we approve this and ask of Sketis shares owners to look into security and cast their votes.

This is where giants of forex meets crypto, its a first step of future happening.


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Re: [ANN][Litecoininvest.com] theSolution Series A “LAND FUND”
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2014, 04:12:19 PM »
Thank you Neil for your kind words, we appreciate the support that you provide , but we are not giants of Forex, on the contrary, just small individual traders with huge plans. Our Forex methods are of "gigantic" worth, allowing a moderate but safe gains, but that's a topic for a separate post. Giants are those who manage astronomical sums on behalf of their clients, and thus they often forget about their investors. "Giants" don't welcome ordinary people in their offices. They work for the elite. This is why we despise such practices, our mission and dream is to become the "giants" of average people, to allow investments on a scale that has never been seen before and with availability never seen before. Crypto currencies allow this, but we need to take it step by step. This is our first step. We tried to make matters as secure for the early investors as possible, thus using land and minimal value retention, and your service :) as we are neighbours. As I've told you earlier in our conversations, you and your team are welcome to pay us a visit to meet us, learn more about our methods. In fact any investor wanting to meet us personally is welcome to do so. Hopefully, with investors and the support and knowledge of the community, we can become Giants together.

If anyone is interested, I can post here some more details about the land, how it looks and where it is located. My Forex trading details are available in the Series B document, but maybe I'll post some results from BTC-e trading that involves crypto currencies, for informative purposes.

Kind regards,
Piotr

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Re: [ANN][Litecoininvest.com] theSolution Series A “LAND FUND”
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2014, 10:24:58 PM »
You promise 5 to 10 % per month. Why not just wait a year and get the same money you'd get on litecoininvest?

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Re: [ANN][Litecoininvest.com] theSolution Series A “LAND FUND”
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2014, 09:10:04 AM »
You promise 5 to 10 % per month. Why not just wait a year and get the same money you'd get on litecoininvest?

Quoting your comment from Litecoininvest voting:

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turbooster voted against with comment: The promise of doubling or even tripling the money in a year (they promise 5 to 10 % per month!) without further specification than "forex trading" doesn't cut it. Why do you need money from investors and don't just wait a year?

The "further specification" and especially my Forex trading results are visible in the Series B prospectus that can be found  at:

[Series B description- includes Forex trading results]
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5MX8YsGbFm9ZTVNR205N0czOVk/edit?pli=1

If you are interested in more details, feel free to ask, I will answer as clearly as I can.

Besides, those are not promises, I base my words on my real life trading results from the past 3 years, it is somewhat different than most of the wannabe fund operators who would like to handle your money so that they can play the game of investing. They think that it's an easy game. I know that the game isn't easy, and contrary to those wannabes, I can and I am making money.

I've also given a reasons for being here, quoting from the description of the asset:


"My trading capital is 50.000 USD, and probably I wouldn't bother to stick my nose out of my home-office if it weren’t for cryptocurrencies. I would probably continue making my 5-10% monthly of those 50.000 USD (which in my country, Poland, is quite a good salary), enjoying life and not worrying or getting stressed, but then I stumbled across crypto currencies, and my fascination began."

You see, it may sound ridiculous, but when you trade Forex and you achieve a certain level of proficiency, it becomes boring. Yeah, making money becomes boring:) I mean, you sit in front of your PC from morning to afternoon, you monitor the markets, monitor the economic news, and it all becomes a routine. A boring routine. It was a small breakthrough when I came across crypto currencies, I started reading about it, got fascinated, I felt the same way as I felt when I discovered Forex some years ago. It was like regaining my youth. So I decided to participate in the crypto currency community. I asked myself how can I benefit the community with my trading knowledge? The reason was obvious.

I've mentored over 150 people, teaching them how to trade, and some of them asked me the same question as you did, "Why, why bother?", so I'm kind of used to such questions. It's a shame that you gave me a negative vote without talking to me first, but that must have been the way you felt, I understand that. I'm also skeptical towards most of trading methods advocated by other people, I know the markets well enough.

I need to mention one more thing, I don't know how well have you read the description and the attached Series B PDF file, but my final goal is to create a service of global scale, which would allow every user of BTC or LTC to transfer their funds for investment, earn 20-30% a year, with the possibility to withdraw the funds at any given moment. This is a challenge, that I need to take step by step, but I'm fascinated with the idea and know this is doable. Please consider how great such a concept is in comparison to simply sitting in front of my PC and getting bored to death, trading sixth or seventh or eighth year in a row the same way.


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Re: [ANN][Litecoininvest.com] theSolution Series A “LAND FUND”
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2014, 09:31:57 AM »
I am glad to see one good project with whole necessary documents from owner and from company. I am also excited with this program and with vision for future. I vote for "yes" and I would do it again, if I could.

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Re: [ANN][Litecoininvest.com] theSolution Series A “LAND FUND”
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2014, 09:52:14 AM »
I see a risk with the currency conversion but overall the project itself seems nice.

What i mean is, if i buy x shares at 1 LTC (speculative price, no idea what it will be) i have invested 7.5$ so i'll get around 5% of 7.5$ every month converted back into LTC.

Chances that the LTC price will go up before you've recouped your investment is pretty high, thus making your initial LTC more valueabe than what you got back along the way.

So instead of investing that one LTC and wait for it to ROI you would have made more money just keeping it - its basicly the same with almost every crypto investment if it has to be converted to FIAT since the working currency isn't the one you started with - i hope that makes sense :D

I still voted yes for it since it seems solid (relying on Etheras words that everything checks out) but i won't invest myself ^^ if you invest at a spike though the coin returns will be higher than what you've started with and the USD value should stay roughly the same or work in your advantage.

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Re: [ANN][Litecoininvest.com] theSolution Series A “LAND FUND”
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2014, 05:02:48 PM »
I see a risk with the currency conversion but overall the project itself seems nice.

What i mean is, if i buy x shares at 1 LTC (speculative price, no idea what it will be) i have invested 7.5$ so i'll get around 5% of 7.5$ every month converted back into LTC.

Chances that the LTC price will go up before you've recouped your investment is pretty high, thus making your initial LTC more valueabe than what you got back along the way.

So instead of investing that one LTC and wait for it to ROI you would have made more money just keeping it - its basicly the same with almost every crypto investment if it has to be converted to FIAT since the working currency isn't the one you started with - i hope that makes sense :D

I still voted yes for it since it seems solid (relying on Etheras words that everything checks out) but i won't invest myself ^^ if you invest at a spike though the coin returns will be higher than what you've started with and the USD value should stay roughly the same or work in your advantage.

Thank you @Rogi696 and @Sy for your votes of confidence and your input in this thread. What you are addressing @Sy, is the major issue with this stage of operation, that I need to treat LTC as a means of transferring value (value tied to USD). This is the major concern of all crypto currency enthusiasts, that they prefer to hold on to their coins with hope of them increasing in value instead of "freezing" their value- exchanging it for a portion of fiat currency. For now, as I can only trade with the use of fiat currencies, I am limited to converting LTC to fiat, but things are starting to look promising as for example BTC-e introduced BTC/LTC/NMC denominated accounts where I can trade on standard Forex pairs. This means that I will be able to make those 5 to 10% per month on a crypto currency investment, not on a fiat investment. This is a great breakthrough, but I need to wait a bit more for the conditions at BTC-e to be a bit better.

On the other hand, there are people less enthusiastic with regard to crypto currencies, people who will treat altcoins as a means of transferring value. I think that it is important for the crypto currency community to create a number of services that would convince ordinary "moms and dads" to get into crypto currencies, this has to do with mass adoption, a topic that is more and more broadly discussed- we need new people to join in, and creating attractive services is one way to persuade them to jump in. I know that the block chain technology is awesome and brings many perks, but if we don't make a concrete use of those perks by creating interesting services, the perks themselves won't capture the attention of the masses, and without the masses we can't compete with the current banking system.

There are also people who got into altcoins at a high price/price spike/period of euphoria and since getting into the market they were experiencing a loss, who aren't enthusiastic at all and don't believe that the price will go up again, who consider that they have already lost enough and who would like to "terminate" their altcoin investment.

Those are only three groups of people, I'm sure there are more groups of people with other needs than those that I've mentioned.

I would like to add one more thought to what I've earlier written as an answer to @Turbooster's concerns.

I'm aware that I'm a relatively new member of the community, so I thought to myself, that before jumping into deep water and going forward with the Series B operation which is of large scale, I would start smaller, with Series A (the current operation, Land Fund LTC). Why? To let people to know me. To make a safe investment fund, that backs up the shares with land in case of any trouble. @Turbooster is asking why do I need money from investors. I don't. Not at Series A. As I've written, from my perspective, I do it to gain trust, to make myself a name, to show that my methods work, and to prepare myself for further development of Series B operation. I could choose to do nothing for half a year or a year before BTC-e will be suitable for my trading, to start working from the ground after half a year or a year, trying to advertise my new project, but then I would be a newcomer, as I am now. Instead I've decided to start now, with a smaller project, and after half a year or a year I will have some results to show, some foundation for further operation. For me, this makes sense.

And from the perspective of investors, I do it to give them an alternative, something different than buying mining power, and different than funds that invest in "crypto currency related asset portfolios", whatever that would be. I give investors a fund that relies on solid principles, that is three years of consistent Forex profits. A fund that is backed up by land. A fund where the shares retain a minimum value, so at least you know that at a worst case scenario, you will get what you paid in. How many funds do that? How many assets do that? How many people are stuck with assets cause no one wants to buy them, even if the price is xx times smaller than the initial price. Most of the issuers are happy when the price falls below the IPO price, so they can buy those shares back at a cheaper price... I'm an investor myself, so I know what I would be looking for, if I were searching for an investment opportunity.

I'm certain that Series B will be a greater opportunity both for the investors and for myself, but for now I would like to focus on Series A, and if investors are more interested in Series B, they can participate in Series A to get a feel of working with me, and then as I launch Series B, they can sell me their shares at the price close to the IPO price, and move to Series B.

If anyone has any suggestions with regard to my operations, I would welcome any comments, I value your opinions and hope that together we can arrive at great solutions.

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Re: [ANN][Litecoininvest.com] theSolution Series A “LAND FUND”
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2014, 05:39:31 PM »
This sounds very reasonable, as I know what it is to earn the reputation if you dont have some big words or shocking changes behind you. This is actually a very good way and plan to become a part of community and drive it forward.
Same stuff, I am opening restaurant in LT which will be first to accept LTC and BTC and Doge :D But building the reputation is hard job.

Neil

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Re: [ANN][Litecoininvest.com] theSolution Series A “LAND FUND”
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2014, 07:53:19 PM »
OK let's say you IPO then you get all of your ~4000 [ltc] and something happens so that the share value drops close to zero. What will happen next? What will happen to the land, what options do you have, what options do shareholders have?
Maybe you should do a tl;dr, "powerpoint-style" version of your offering (but keep the long version). That way pepole can get an idea of what the offering is and then read on about the stuff that interests them. It's true that I haven't seen pages 8ish and on because I thought you were simply presenting your past performances in the PDF.
You talk about computer assisted trading. Care to give an example?

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Re: [ANN][Litecoininvest.com] theSolution Series A “LAND FUND”
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2014, 09:42:41 PM »
This sounds very reasonable, as I know what it is to earn the reputation if you dont have some big words or shocking changes behind you. This is actually a very good way and plan to become a part of community and drive it forward.
Same stuff, I am opening restaurant in LT which will be first to accept LTC and BTC and Doge :D But building the reputation is hard job.

Neil

This was my "mistake", even in the Forex community, not being active or visible on the web/forums. I mean, I was concentrated on my trading, didn't need to discuss about it, I was rather a silent reader, hidden in my man cave:) This is why now I need to double my efforts to make up for the time lost in my cave. One thing that is great for me is that I have a new goal, new targets to achieve, it feels like being alive again:)

@Neil, I hope that you succeed, I would gladly visit a good restaurant and pay in coins:) Out of interest I've spoken to some restaurant owners in my hometown, some of them considered accepting payments in BTC but the legislative situation in Poland is not encouraging, some Tax Offices in Poland stated that when selling BTC one needs to pay VAT (when you are a miner):

http://www.coindesk.com/polish-tax-authority-bitcoin-mining-profits-subject-22-vat/

but then the tone started to sound more reasonable:

http://www.coindesk.com/polish-finance-ministry-says-bitcoin-can-used-financial-instrument/

Unfortunately, in Poland, the government wants to stick their dirty fingers into everything that people do, so those who run restaurants are not sure if they want to risk by accepting altcoins. Unless the situation becomes clear, owners won't rush into accepting crypto currency payments.

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Re: [ANN][Litecoininvest.com] theSolution Series A “LAND FUND”
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2014, 10:38:24 PM »
OK let's say you IPO then you get all of your ~4000 [ltc] and something happens so that the share value drops close to zero. What will happen next? What will happen to the land, what options do you have, what options do shareholders have?
Maybe you should do a tl;dr, "powerpoint-style" version of your offering (but keep the long version). That way pepole can get an idea of what the offering is and then read on about the stuff that interests them. It's true that I haven't seen pages 8ish and on because I thought you were simply presenting your past performances in the PDF.
You talk about computer assisted trading. Care to give an example?

It's good to hear from you, I know that I won't satisfy everyone as it is impossible I guess, and I'm not afraid of the tough questions as long as I try to do my best, as best as I can, such questions are very necessary both for me and for the investors.

I'll only answer a part of your questions as it is close to midnight in my timezone, and I would like to give a full answer to the trading part, so I'll reserve that for tomorrow.

First of all, I don't spend the gathered funds on buying equipment (as mining operations do), on investing into other assets over which I don't have control of (as funds do), I exchange the LTC for USD as I've stated (somewhere in the tl;dr description, you've got me there, it is a long one:), so the money is there, on a Forex trading account, with the possibility to withdraw the funds almost instantly. The funds are used for trading, in a manner that I've been doing for the last 3 years- I will give you more details tomorrow, as I would like to include some visual materials. So, the money does not go into something that would be hard to redeem, it is there available, I don't need to sell my mining rigs in case of failure:) I don't need to sell anything, cause I don't buy anything. I don't invest in dubious crypto currency related assets issued by operators who might run away with the money, or invest through a single exchange platform like Mt.Gox that might suddenly go bankrupt (yes, this was a failure of one of crypto currency trading funds that they made 80% of their trading through Mt.Gox and as a result lost 80% of their funds- this is why I don't want to trust BTC-e unless there are more alternative services of this kind, not to get too much exposed). I hold USD, on Forex broker account(s),  so I have 24/7 access to those funds.

All in all, if the shares value go near zero, I can withdraw the money from the Forex trading account and give it back to the shareholders- by commencing a buyback. This answers your question, but there is another question that should be answered. Can I lose the money by trading?

The only bad thing that might happen, and this is very important in this conversation, is if I started to make losses instead of profits. This would be alarming. I devoted several years into developing a trading method that would be "bullet-proof" so to speak, but there are no such methods, although you may get very close to it:) especially if you decide to give up high profits in place for lower, but safer profits. This is my key point, this is what I have devoted endless hours to. To make my trading as safe as possible, in any market conditions. Not to be greedy. Not to go for high profits with high risk, but to go for low profits with low or next to nothing risk.

But let us assume that the global economy collapses once again (hey, I've managed to go through this once), and all of my sacred trading methods go to hell, causing a mayhem on my and (by virtue of shares ownership) our trading accounts. What can I do? I can sell the land and give the money back to the shareholders. Yes, I might be "stupid" (in scammers' terms) by saying this, cause this wasn't one of your questions, but I would like to make all the issues clear. As I've said, I'm an investor, a careful one, so if I were looking for investments, I would only choose a safe one, and as I'm offering one, I would like to make it as safe as possible. Neil has all the details of the land, I will present it here for your consideration, with the same pictures that I've sent to Sketis JSC, with the same coordinates, but excluding the documents that confirm the ownership- it's enough that Neil has confirmed it.

I'm aware that in case of a default, if I'm reluctant (saying hypothetically) to sell the land and pay back to the shareholders, the shareholders would need to seek justice at court (this is why I decided to list through Sketis  JSC, they are geographically close, 420 km away from me and it would be easy for them to handle the court case- damn I'm stupid by saying this;), so I provide the shareholders with a chance to do that even if I turn out to be an evil troll:) by not doing the PO by a LLC company, but by a private partnership company that vauches for their liabilities with private property. If there is more that I can do, please point me to that, if there is a smarter way, I would consider choosing it. I don't want and don't need to be protected or shielded by the law.

@Turbooster, I appreciate your questions as I want to be as clear as possible, and the idea of a PPT-style presentation isn't a bad one, reading through 30 pages of text may be a bit discouraging. I like infographs myself, cause they communicate the message quickly. I know I have the habit of making my messages longish, but it is because I want to give all the necessary details, ideas and thoughts. If you don't mind, I will give you the remaining answer about my trading tomorrow, after some sleep, and I'll try to make it short for a change;)
« Last Edit: July 30, 2014, 11:02:14 PM by thExit »

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Re: [ANN][Litecoininvest.com] theSolution Series A “LAND FUND”
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2014, 04:56:00 PM »
You talk about computer assisted trading. Care to give an example?

I gave up the idea of adding visual materials, as I'm not certain how deep do you want me to go with my explanation. For now I'll focus on the technical side of Forex automated trading, trying to keep is simple and short.

As a trader I develop a certain method/ strategy for entering and exiting the market, as well as for managing an open trade. I can trade manually, then I need to watch the chart and react when a certain set of rules is met and act according to the trading plan. So if I get a signal to buy, I place a buy order with a certain Stop Loss level, a certain Take Profit level, and I wait to see what the outcome will be. There is a number of ways to manage such an open trade, that is moving your Stop Loss to Break Even if you are some way towards your profit. The variations are endless, I'm only using a simple example.

Now, instead of sitting if front of my computer, in the MQL programming language which is the basis for MetaTrader4&5 trading platforms, I can program my trading strategy (my set of rules and actions) into an Expert Advisor (EA). An EA is actually a programme that runs on top of the trading platform, and has the ability to conduct trading- it monitors and gathers inputs from chart, from indicators, even from websites. An EA is a supplement of a trader, it does what a trader would do, or what the trader tells the EA to do. MT4 Expert Advisors are quite common among traders, as some of them are used by novice traders who can't trade themselves, some are used as aids in trading (for example EAs that don't place orders but help to manage opened orders in a fast manner), there is a wide variety of commercial EAs, but most of them work only for a short period of time (half a year, a year), cause they are made for certain market conditions, and as markets change, the EAs start to make losses. The mechanism is quite simple, a programmer spots a certain method that seems to work for some time, he develops an EA, tests it, markets it, and up to this time the EA does well; half a year passes and the programmer decides to sell his EA to the general public; he sells it, people test it on demo accounts, then switch to real accounts; another half a year passes, and the markets start to change their character, price movements have a different character, so the EA starts to lose money. The clients don't believe at first, so they are reluctant to shut down such an EA, so they start losing money, but hoping that the EA will start to earn money again. But usually this never happens, as most EAs (the strategies that underlies the EAs) are made for certain, specific market conditions. Sometimes the programmers try to modify and adjust the settings of such EAs, but very often without success.

For those reasons I use strategies that are universal, such that are not suited to certain market conditions- even if those suited strategies can make 40-100-200% a month, it's not worth using them in the long run, cause it is a two-edge sword, you can win fast, but you can lose even faster. I prefer 5-10% per month, but without the risk of losing my capital.

I use a strategy that over time has gone through modifications, I was able to pass two "milestones" that allowed to significantly increase the profits/decrease risk at the same time. The strategy applies a number of variations, in other words the same strategy (EA) is used on one account with various modification, so one modification makes up for the weak points of the other, and vice versa. The EAs are my creation, so you won't find them anywhere on the web. There is one more important factor. I believe in a synergy between a trader and an EA, the best solution is to combine the reliability of an EA and the wisdom of an experienced Forex trader. I'm using this strategy for more than 3 years now, monitoring its performance day by day, its a part of me. Sometimes I make a tweak here or there if I see a chance for a slightly bigger profit, but all in all this is not necessary.

I hope that I've answered your question a bit (sorry for not keeping it short:).




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Re: [ANN][Litecoininvest.com] theSolution Series A “LAND FUND”
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2014, 07:05:20 PM »
I am a little surprised that this project isn"t listed in yet, especially when I compare with other projects who (I supposed) were easily listed in Litecoininvest.....

thExit   if you have any problems with listed your project in Litecoininvest, I have a few very interested private investors (wealthy enough), who could easily fulfil your Stage 1 and at least half of stage 2 right away.
Just send me PM and I will organize meeting with private investors.

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Re: [ANN][Litecoininvest.com] theSolution Series A “LAND FUND”
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2014, 08:41:29 AM »
This sounds very reasonable, as I know what it is to earn the reputation if you dont have some big words or shocking changes behind you. This is actually a very good way and plan to become a part of community and drive it forward.
Same stuff, I am opening restaurant in LT which will be first to accept LTC and BTC and Doge :D But building the reputation is hard job.

Neil
What is LT? I might visit one day if it's not too far. :P