Hey mrrr and the community,
I've been busy this morning and this evening trying to figure out a lot about them too (this took quite some hours work). I went a different direction than you did.
I can buy the chamber of commerce thing, I was really thinking about it and almost bought it. Please contact me to let me know if you're going to buy it or that I should do it
So here comes my long write-up... I hope you can follow my think and search pattern
I pulled the phonenumber and found that it was used by a German IT company ran by M Coumans (Marc Coumans
). They have 'an HQ in The Netherlands'. They were founded 2008 (please look this up, I didn't check whether it was the German GmbH or the Dutch B.V.) and are called CONSALIT ( www.consalit.eu
). The phonenumber is used since 2010 and this can be confirmed by using the web archive: http://web.archive.org/web/20091121040006/http://www.consalit.eu/Kontakt.html
Now things are getting tricky...
This leads to the following information from June 2013:Marc Coumans
CONSALIT B.V. Tel: +31 (0)43 7999 – 016 [email protected] Stationsplein 8-K
Handy: +49 (0)151 5606 2233 www.consalit.eu/clusa
6221 BT Maastricht Handy: +31 (0)6 406 757 90
(found here: http://www.consalit.eu/resources/CONSALIT+SMART+IT+Client+mit+CLUSA.pdf
My interest in the building is really high now, so I searched and it's a business center where people can hire space. Actually, there's A WHOLE LIST of other companies REGISTERED UNDER THE SAME ADDRESS (8 K): http://www.goedkopekantoorruimte.nl/node/377/bedrijven
Why is this done? This address is a dummy address to register your company. I checked some of the companies and they are legit. Their problem is that these companies are small and often work from their homes, but need a business space to work/meet (sometimes) or mostly work at home but don't want to share their personal address (understandably, or because of legal issues). So this isn't something that's only done for scams. Although... there are some notes on the internet about fishy companies under that address...
So ok, so far CONSALIT B.V. seems to be the same company as MAT. Let's check domains WHOIS under "[email protected]
" (found in the WHOIS of MAT.com).
- mat.com http://www.whois.com/whois/mining-asics-technologies.com
pops up as "Mathias Coumans
" over here: http://goo.gl/maps/D7tFu
- consalit.biz http://whois.domaintools.com/consalit.biz
pops up as Mathias Coumans
at the same address
- consalit-ag.com http://www.whois.com/whois/consalit-ag.com
pops up as Mathias Coumans
at the same address
- consalit.org consalit.biz consalit-ag.com consalit.eu pop up
They are all registered at http://www.1und1.de/
... also ... the IT webpage is build by "WFX builder" (a very simple HTML builder) and MAT.com is made with software provided by 1&1.de (1&1 DIY Website Builder). So there's a good 'connection' on technical level as well (Mathias Coumans has both consalit.biz, consalit-ag.com and MAT.com).Marc Coumans
and his IT business look legit (they appear on the IBM website): http://www-01.ibm.com/software/success/cssdb.nsf/CS/SSAO-8YYNJK?OpenDocument&Site=default&cty=en_us
This is Marc Coumans
' public LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/marccoumansLet's recap.
This looks pretty legit in the following way: Marc Coumans is the owner of CONSALIT B.V. and their website and Dutch phone number exist since 2010-ish (at least, that's what web.archive.org shows). We know that this isn't some fake company because they've updated news over the past years ( check this webarchive link, some news dates back to 2008
), but more importantly there's good evidence on the website of IBM.
So this whole IT business is legit under the registrants email "[email protected]
". When we search this, we also get MAT.com, which links back to "Mathias Coumans"
... but... this isn't the "Mark Coumans"
from CONSALIT B.V. and there's no mention about the "Mathias" first name on his LinkedIn. So is this a relative?
Let's go further: consalit.biz is registered under the name "Mathias Coumans"
AND the Facebook page of MAT reads the following: "Mathias Marc Coumans | CEO & Co-Founder"
. So is the conclusion that "Mark Coumans"
also uses the name "Mathias"
in some cases? Does this mean this ties everything up and everything is legit?
Well... I'm not sure because I didn't tell you yet that I've been digging in the sourcecode of www.consalit.eu
: <meta name="author" content="MJJ Coumans"> ... MJJ Coumans
. How on earth can a "J" become "Mathias"
Only the MAT Facebook page says something about the "Mathias"
name in combination with "Mark Coumans"
.Let's go-go gadget the other way around......
Assumption: Marc Coumans and CONSALIT 'have been chosen' by MAT.com to be their "Scapegoat" and neither Marc Coumans nor CONSALIT agree or know anything about MAT.com.
How could this be done? The only thing they need is access to, is the [email protected]
email address. I do not want to discriminate but I know that older people (yes I call Marc Coumans old) use simple passwords which they can remember more easy. Let's say they have gained access to that email and they made sure that if somebody checked the WHOIS data, everything fits, even the Hosting Provider and the way of setting up their website (with an easy HTML builder). Even the physical addresses match (not too hard, because there's many companies there).
So how likely is this? It would take quite some time to figure all these things out (easy Dutch registrant address from an IT company to which they have access to the owners' email). Or... Could this be a rogue employee?
This is all pretty likely as people will often go very far in their scams.
So what's up with the "Marc Coumans" and "Mathias Coumans" names?
"Mathias Coumans" is used in the consalit.biz domain. This domain has been updated last at 1st of April 2013 and that's quite some time before MAT.com. The chances of "Mathias Coumans" being a scapegoat name - to make things even more vague - instead of a real name (this was my first thought) become smaller...
Add to the fact that "Marc Coumans" could be married to somebody called " XXX Mathias" and that "Mathias Coumans" are two last names combined. This could explain why "Marc Coumans" is also called "Mathias Marc Coumans" without having the proper initials (MJJ Coumans).
On the other hand, why would you place a last name in front of a first name?So my opinion: I'm pretty confused because it looks legit but stinks everywhere... I mean:
- I find MAT's FAQ's are too short, their English is not of great quality, they have some shitty HTML website (c'mon, the ASIC business is expensive, spend a little bit more money on this)
- why not tell us about CONSALIT B.V.
- and best of all: why would they use a Dutch company instead of a German company when they're German based? The answer is... it's easier, makes things vague (crossing borders) and most important, it costs a few hundred Euro's instead of the 25.000 Euro's investment which a German GmbH needs....... (LINK OVER HERE)How do we solve this? Well... we need to buy the Chamber of Commerce details from CONSALIT B.V. (Dutch) , CONSALIT GmbH (German) and MAT B.V. (Dutch). This costs around 20 euro's total, but will probably resolve questions as the owners of the companies are listed in the papers. I'd like to find answers without asking people questions. That happens after all the available (OBJECTIVE) information is gathered and analyzed.If you would like to support me in my efforts unraveling "crypto mysteries" (I have done this before, once catching a scammer and I had been given a cut of the coins he returned), please send some: