Author Topic: HINT/HEADS-UP for Sapphire 280-X Vapor-X miners with LATEST (015.041) BIOS  (Read 101417 times)

Offline thankyou

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Re: HINT/HEADS-UP for Sapphire 280-X Vapor-X miners with LATEST (015.041) BIOS
« Reply #60 on: January 02, 2014, 06:18:42 AM »
signed the petiton, I'm asking for the latest bios or an earlier one than 15.041, tho they haven't given me one yet.

Cheers @pengo; spread the word and I'll try and call Sapphire's HQ in Hong Kong again...

I've got a backup of the 015.041 legacy bios (not UEFI) via ATIFlash (the original).

I also have a 015.039 card in a rig? Let me know what you need.


Offline pengo

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Re: HINT/HEADS-UP for Sapphire 280-X Vapor-X miners with LATEST (015.041) BIOS
« Reply #61 on: January 02, 2014, 06:25:37 AM »
The 15.041 legacy bios which I was supplied by izzyminer (thank you) works but I would love to get a copy of the UEFI vbios as well to test (has to support Elpida vram). If the card gets rma'd I'd like it to have the uefi vbios so its stock standard.

Post up the 15.039 vbios if it supports Elpida vram (uefi preffered otherwise legacy is fine).

How do you save the legacy vbios and the uefi bios? Just a switch with atiflash or are you then resaving with vbe7 to get the legacy vbios as it disables uefi in the rom image? I know gpuz can save the vbios but its grabs the uefi image as I guess that present in the rom.

I've upped the voltage to 1093 (v1.093) in msi afterburner and powertune to 25 as the display driver crashed with the voltage at 1088. If I don't get a crash I'll try again with 1088 voltage (to rule out lower powertune).
« Last Edit: January 02, 2014, 07:37:30 AM by pengo »

Offline izzyminer

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Re: HINT/HEADS-UP for Sapphire 280-X Vapor-X miners with LATEST (015.041) BIOS
« Reply #62 on: January 02, 2014, 08:03:46 AM »
I'll post you the 41 EFI later in the day. Kinda busy now

I have both 39 legacy and EFI as I have one of those cards, and I'll post those too as well in case you need it

Offline izzyminer

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Re: HINT/HEADS-UP for Sapphire 280-X Vapor-X miners with LATEST (015.041) BIOS
« Reply #63 on: January 02, 2014, 08:19:35 AM »
From what I can see, hot vram is not an issue, because my hynix 015.039 bios runs overnight at 98c vram when not undervolted.

It is the cheapass elpida vram that cannot handle the hot environment that is an issue. Seriously, when you make me pay extra for supposedly better product and stick it with cheap elpida vram, i think thats cheating. Its a good effort to start the petition (i've signed it) but I think to make them (Sapphire) really move, someone with access to class action suit specialist US lawyers should present some of our findings and throw it at Sapphire to get them to move either to fix the bios (which may be useless because of the crappy vram) or get us some rebate coupons or something

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Re: HINT/HEADS-UP for Sapphire 280-X Vapor-X miners with LATEST (015.041) BIOS
« Reply #64 on: January 02, 2014, 08:23:28 AM »
From what I can see, hot vram is not an issue, because my hynix 015.039 bios runs overnight at 98c vram when not undervolted.

It is the cheapass elpida vram that cannot handle the hot environment that is an issue. Seriously, when you make me pay extra for supposedly better product and stick it with cheap elpida vram, i think thats cheating. Its a good effort to start the petition (i've signed it) but I think to make them (Sapphire) really move, someone with access to class action suit specialist US lawyers should present some of our findings and throw it at Sapphire to get them to move either to fix the bios (which may be useless because of the crappy vram) or get us some rebate coupons or something

I agree. LOL involving lawyers unless its pro bono it aint going to happen - unless you got deep pockets, but then why are you mining. Just "vote with your wallet" and try a different vendor next time I guess.

All good regarding the vbios I can wait, nothing on the sapphire support front. How hard is it to supply me with what I'm asking for Sapphire? Getting a bios from fellow customers is just fail (along with all the other fails).
« Last Edit: January 02, 2014, 11:19:37 AM by pengo »

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Re: HINT/HEADS-UP for Sapphire 280-X Vapor-X miners with LATEST (015.041) BIOS
« Reply #65 on: January 02, 2014, 08:44:41 AM »
From what I can see, hot vram is not an issue, because my hynix 015.039 bios runs overnight at 98c vram when not undervolted.

It is the cheapass elpida vram that cannot handle the hot environment that is an issue. Seriously, when you make me pay extra for supposedly better product and stick it with cheap elpida vram, i think thats cheating. Its a good effort to start the petition (i've signed it) but I think to make them (Sapphire) really move, someone with access to class action suit specialist US lawyers should present some of our findings and throw it at Sapphire to get them to move either to fix the bios (which may be useless because of the crappy vram) or get us some rebate coupons or something

Count me in ;) Sapphire are lairs and cheaters. Additionally, their support totally ignores my tickets. DO NOT BUY SAPPHIRE PRODUCTS.

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Re: HINT/HEADS-UP for Sapphire 280-X Vapor-X miners with LATEST (015.041) BIOS
« Reply #66 on: January 02, 2014, 11:17:49 AM »
@izzyminer A preemptive cheers for posting the 41 and 39 legacy/EFI bios later. I won't be free until tomorrow night to get to my cards.

I'll post you the 41 EFI later in the day. Kinda busy now

I have both 39 legacy and EFI as I have one of those cards, and I'll post those too as well in case you need it

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Re: HINT/HEADS-UP for Sapphire 280-X Vapor-X miners with LATEST (015.041) BIOS
« Reply #67 on: January 02, 2014, 11:21:38 AM »
--scrypt --thread-concurrency 8193 -g 2 -I 13 -w 256 --gpu-fan 65 --temp-overheat 85 --temp-target 71 --expiry 1 --scan-time 1 --queue 0 --no-submit-stale --gpu-powertune 50

1037 core / 1500 mem / vddc 1093 via bios.

Then reapplied with sapphire trixx (just in case).

Hash rate = 715 kH/sec. (tho its night time now and the ambient temp is a lot cooler).

Tried 1044/1500 and got 725 kH/sec. Dang got a crash loading some flash videos!

Found a forum post for memratios and 7970 which the 280x is pretty much:

Gpu/Mem   Hashrate~
800/790   555kH/s
800/870   555kH/s
850/930   585kH/s
850/1065   585kH/s
900/1000   620kH/s
900/1155   625kH/s
900/1310   620kH/s
925/1000   635kH/s
925/1001   400kH/s
950/1205   655kH/s
950/1370   650kH/s
963/1375   665kH/s
963/1220   670kH/s
1000/1250   660kH/s
1000/1251   450kH/s
1000/1455   690kH/s
1024/1475   710kH/s
1044/1500   720kH/s
1044/1501   495kH/s
« Last Edit: January 02, 2014, 01:40:25 PM by pengo »

Offline izzyminer

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Re: HINT/HEADS-UP for Sapphire 280-X Vapor-X miners with LATEST (015.041) BIOS
« Reply #68 on: January 02, 2014, 07:42:16 PM »
here you go guys. I just upload the full set in case anyone needs it.

http://www.filedropper.com/015039000001legacystock - for Hynix Ram only
http://www.filedropper.com/015039000001uefistock - for Hynix Ram only
http://www.filedropper.com/015041legacystock - for Elpida Ram only
http://www.filedropper.com/015041uefistock - for Elpida Ram only

sorry for the late upload as I spent the last 4 hours figuring out why my new powered riser don't work when multi card. gave up and stuck with the old unpowered one

note: edited to include ram version
« Last Edit: February 03, 2014, 02:06:20 AM by izzyminer »

Offline pengo

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Re: HINT/HEADS-UP for Sapphire 280-X Vapor-X miners with LATEST (015.041) BIOS
« Reply #69 on: January 03, 2014, 02:03:10 AM »
Think the issue maybe due to the uefi bios, as I get 739 khsec on the 14.041 legacy bios and temps are above 72c...

Will have to test.

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Re: HINT/HEADS-UP for Sapphire 280-X Vapor-X miners with LATEST (015.041) BIOS
« Reply #70 on: January 03, 2014, 04:55:34 AM »
--scrypt --thread-concurrency 8193 -g 2 -I 13 -w 256 --gpu-fan 65 --temp-overheat 85 --temp-target 71 --expiry 1 --scan-time 1 --queue 0 --no-submit-stale --gpu-powertune 50

1037 core / 1500 mem / vddc 1093 via bios.

Then reapplied with sapphire trixx (just in case).

Hash rate = 715 kH/sec. (tho its night time now and the ambient temp is a lot cooler).

Tried 1044/1500 and got 725 kH/sec. Dang got a crash loading some flash videos!

Found a forum post for memratios and 7970 which the 280x is pretty much:

Gpu/Mem   Hashrate~
800/790   555kH/s
800/870   555kH/s
850/930   585kH/s
850/1065   585kH/s
900/1000   620kH/s
900/1155   625kH/s
900/1310   620kH/s
925/1000   635kH/s
925/1001   400kH/s
950/1205   655kH/s
950/1370   650kH/s
963/1375   665kH/s
963/1220   670kH/s
1000/1250   660kH/s
1000/1251   450kH/s
1000/1455   690kH/s
1024/1475   710kH/s
1044/1500   720kH/s
1044/1501   495kH/s

My XFX 7970 is running 1080/1500, stock volts, stock fans, with a gigabyte bios at 750kH/s in the high 70's for temps.
Not sure if that helps you guys, but you never know :)

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Re: HINT/HEADS-UP for Sapphire 280-X Vapor-X miners with LATEST (015.041) BIOS
« Reply #71 on: January 03, 2014, 08:32:28 AM »
Think the issue maybe due to the uefi bios, as I get 739 khsec on the 14.041 legacy bios and temps are above 72c...

Will have to test.

Coooool! I'll have to get the setting from you later. I maxed out at 730 testing last night and seems like the new setting is not stable as the PC has crashed this morning and I'm at work.... :(

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Re: HINT/HEADS-UP for Sapphire 280-X Vapor-X miners with LATEST (015.041) BIOS
« Reply #72 on: January 04, 2014, 06:52:47 AM »
Using core 1044 mem 1500 @ 1100 vddc. Seems to be pretty stable while mining and using the pc.

Hash rate avg around 720 kh/sec. Haven't tested the uefi bios bios as want to do some mining atm. Will test it tho, thanks for those who have posted bios images.

Sapphire support has just ignored me and hasn't bothered to supply us with any bios images to date. Really disappointed with sapphire support. Will try Asus next as they seem to have better build quality and/or support?

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Re: HINT/HEADS-UP for Sapphire 280-X Vapor-X miners with LATEST (015.041) BIOS
« Reply #73 on: January 04, 2014, 07:40:56 AM »
here you go guys. I just upload the full set in case anyone needs it.

http://www.filedropper.com/015039000001legacystock
http://www.filedropper.com/015039000001uefistock
http://www.filedropper.com/015041legacystock
http://www.filedropper.com/015041uefistock

sorry for the late upload as I spent the last 4 hours figuring out why my new powered riser don't work when multi card. gave up and stuck with the old unpowered one

i installed legacy 15.041 but i get 680 kh/s, my hash rate was 725 kh/s. i installed 15.041 uefi but i doesn't help, any idea?
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i think i solved it. folk, try your scripts at 1162 vddc.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2014, 09:27:42 AM by apulunas »

Offline izzyminer

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Re: HINT/HEADS-UP for Sapphire 280-X Vapor-X miners with LATEST (015.041) BIOS
« Reply #74 on: January 05, 2014, 12:56:05 AM »
i've been tweaking it and I noticed 8193 thread concurrency is critical! 8192 boom you are down to 600+, 8194 the same. so stay at 8193
then I tweak the engine for every settings

of the 3 41bios cards I have, one is "good" and two are "bad", the good one can run at 1072 GPU with 735Kh/s and the 2 runs at 1068 GPU with 726Kh/s
one of the bad card somehow keeps dropping Kh/s and I woke up this morning at 620 region  >:(
So now I have powertune the bad card to +20 and seems like its more stable, shall wait another few hours and see any difference

My only issue now is that the two "bad" cards seem to run in tandem (i.e. if one improves at the expense of the other) I have managed to tune both up to 728 and 730 Kh/s) but both cannot run at the optimal speed at the same time. One will have to drop to 722Kh/s if I tune up the other. Anyone has this kind of experience?